Tuesday, December 09, 2008

Obama's Citizenship Issue

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After game analysis of the Obie Birth Certificate debacle.

It's not pretty. It would appear that the SCOTUS has used FactCheck.org as their expert authority!

What the hell is going on here?

Like the man says:

Can you imagine what is coming next? I can, and like our nations founders, “I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that his justice cannot sleep forever.” Thomas Jefferson

The Constitution either means exactly what it says, or it means absolutely nothing at all. As of today, it means nothing at all…

Guess what follows? I have only one final question for my fellow Americans…

If Article II – Section I no longer applies, what parts of the Constitution do? Just Amendment XVI*?


Here is a Texas lawyer's take on the issue. by Steven D. Laib

In doing so, it can state a compelling public interest; the interest that the Constitution must be followed, and that anyone who seeks office governed by the Constitution must prove their eligibility, or it calls constitutional authority into question.

Another take on the issue by J.B. Williams.

In short, the U.S. Constitution either matters today, or it doesn’t matter ever again.


The Gunslinger

*The amendment that instituted Income Taxes.
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5 comments:

  1. If his mother is American, he is a Citizen. I don't understand what all the controversy is about...

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  2. Actually, that's not technically true. It depends how old she is, and how many years she spent in America prior to her going overseas. Apparently there is some question about that. I understand she was underage, and perhaps had not been in the USA long enough to qualify before she left.

    It also depends if he was born a "citizen" of another country, or became one as a child.

    You can't be born with dual citizenship, I think. If your parents claim citizenship for you of another country, it automatically recinds your American citizenship.

    At least these are the claims that are being made.

    There is some issue of his Indonesian citizenship, and his foreign passport, which he used until fairly recently, as I understand.

    It's really not so simple as people who dismiss this issue are claiming.

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  3. It won't matter.Reading "Caesar:Life of a Colossus"...the Republic self-destructed while Sulla,Crassus,Pompey,Caesar,et.al continually and openly violated various laws re:qualifications,scopes of power,etc.Most Romans no longer cared,just wanted their guy no matter what,and damn the rules.

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  4. I remember...there came a time when (was it Sulla?) just started killing his rivals.

    All bets were off at that point. Laws no longer mattered.

    It was all over but the shouting.

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  5. Not yet...Crassus had the only fire brigade in Rome.Fires would "happen",he'd extort money to "save" the nieghborhood,"couldn't",then pick up real estate REAL cheap.Then,thru his political leverage,get the contract to rebuild...da neighborhood! So familar...The book by Adrian Goldsworthy is SO wide in scope (political,sociological,religious rites,military battles and tactics) yet a somewhat acerbic take on what Human Nature (and the "special,gifted" Humans)struggles to be,always careful to put things into perspective,yet the dare-I-say "subtext" is that we and our appetites never really change,just the alternative cultural context.The book makes you Smell The Time,rather than a Vanity-Glance that flatters ourselves.

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