The Real State of the Union

Okay, this here is just out-and-out theft. But I can't figure out a better way to get these particularly pithy and important contributions to the conversation in front of you.

Just pointing at the page is too general, these can get lost in the shuffle

...so I hope they forgive me...

This conversation begins talking about watching YDBT (YouDidn'tBuildThat) giving the SOTU address the other night.

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Grzmlyk

I watched it for as long as I could stand that piece of fecal matter, which was about five minutes.

What blows me away isn't what a callow, bigoted, ignorant, angry, self-absorbed, delusional, mean-spirited, character-free, pathological, lying narcissist he is.

It is that anybody - ANYBODY ON THIS PLANET over the age of 11 - cannot see through this malevolent non-entity.

Any adult (or even teenager) who does not see what Obama is really shouldn't be allowed to dress themselves in the morning, much less go out into the world.

I realize that people hitch their wagon to his "star" because they share his juvenile view of the world, or because they believe his being black trumps all else, or because they, too, are vandals who want to destroy this country, or because they are crooks who in one way or another make their living off of the rape of the Americans who make this country work.
But these are NOT the people who should be citizens of this country. Perhaps we should deport the 51% of MORONS who voted for a piece of sewage for president to their own desert island so they can destroy each other and let us continue to execute the blueprint the founding fathers so wisely laid out.

Anthony

I'm afraid it's going to come to that Grzmlyk, civil war, winners takes all, losers get booted the hell out of America.

KennesawJack

Nope. Fracturing is what's going to happen. There will be the Old America (us) and the New Amerika (them). There will be a mass migration of the takers to Amerika and a mass migration of the producers to America - assuming Amerika lets them leave.

Grzmlyk

But they know deep down that without "makers," the "takers" aren't long for this earth. That's the dirty little truth of socialism. Or, to paraphrase Margaret Thatcher's, eventually, you run out of other people's money.

Socialism is slavery - a parasitic economic system; once it kills the host, it dies shortly thereafter, and these liars know this.

KennesawJack

Grz, except for the fact of the abject stupidity of our particularly American brand of takers, you would be correct. Our takers will believe anything their messiah tells them. They will gladly go waltzing off to the gulags.

  Grzmlyk

Seems to me these bastards on the left would jump at the chance to go off and create their little pristine, hug-filled Utopia in which equality for EVERYBODY (everybody except each and every one of THEM, of course) reigns supreme, a world of unselfish perfection unsullied by the selfish greed of free marketers, a world in which childish dreams are unpunctured by the pin-prick of an adult world view.

But what fun would that be? The real joy of being a leftist isn't the promise of multiculturalism or social/economic/racial justice or everybody paying their "fair share" or even the apotheosis of professional victims.

If you're a leftist, The real joy of being a leftist is grinding other people under their boo theel. Subjugating other people to their will. Coercion. Bullying. Hurting. That's what gets your average, run-of-the-mill leftist up in the morning. Just look at the history of troll comments here. Without exception, they reveal hatred, grotesque fetishizing of power and an unbridled sense that, as long as they say the right things, they have a Gaia-given right to bust a few heads.

It's too bad so many Americans enjoy lying supine before a lash wielded by sadists intoxicated by the smell of blood.

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 This last by Grzmlyk is a variation on my belief that all Progressives are incipient Mass Murderers. and D.C. Clothesline's iteration of the argument.

And that part in RED is exactly what I think of the Left. They enjoy hurting others. They are actually EVIL. Spawn of Satan if you believe in that sort of thing. And like all other undisciplined, appetite-driven men, they will indulge their pleasures and vices with a single-mindedness that otherwise might be admirable. They. Will. Never. Stop.

They are like rapists and pedophiles. Their happiness REQUIRES the pain and suffering of others. And they are as insensitive to it as both.

They are like addicts of the most addictive drugs. They can never get enough. But worse than drug addicts who usually understand that what they are doing is destructive and evil, Progressives have convinced themselves that their sick, destructive appetites are actually good for those they consume, assault, destroy, impoverish, enslave.

No simple criminal will ever do as much harm to individual men, or to mankind as this plague of Progressive locusts.

/Gun

They WILL Kill You

May I reiterate a point I made a bit ago?

Maybe it's the drone white paper. Killing Americans willy-nilly because some "highly informed" political official deems them dangerous, or it's too "burdensome" for government to get, you know, judicial or Congressional review...

Progressives will always end up mass murdering their fellow citizens.

Let me say that again.

PROGRESSIVES ALWAYS END UP MASS MURDERING THEIR FELLOW CITIZENS.

The only exceptions are those that are blessedly removed from office before they are able to gather enough power to execute such orders.

Progressives are collectivists are socialists are communists are tyrants & dictators.

PROGRESSIVES ALWAYS END UP MASS MURDERING THEIR FELLOW CITIZENS.

When I say the names Stalin, Hitler, Mao, today's Progressive apologists say something like, "Oh, they were monsters, OUR progressives-collectivists-socialists-communists aren't doing that!"

Well, Stalin didn't do it either. Until he could. Then he did.
Lenin didn't do it. Until he could. Then he did.
Hitler didn't do it. Until he could. Then he did.
Pol Pot didn't do it. Until he could. Then he did.
Castro didn't do it. Until he could. Then he did.
Che Guevera didn't do it. Until he could. Then he did.
Mao didn't do it. Until he could. Then he did.
Ho Chi Min didn't do it. Until he could. Then he did.
Kim Jong Il didn't do it. Until he could. Then he did.

Woodrow Wilson didn't do it, because there was that pesky Constitution, that back then, people actually believed in. (Trust me. It's the only reason he didn't.) He DID put people in prison for speaking out against the war or his government. Because he could.

Franklin Roosevelt didn't do it. But he did put thousands of Americans into concentration camps. Because he could.

Barack Øbama's just starting slow. He's picking off individual fellow-citizens in other countries. (And, of course, anyone else who happens to get caught in the line of fire.) Because he can.

Can he? Are we really going to allow that? Are we really going to permit this?

PROGRESSIVES ALWAYS END UP MASS MURDERING THEIR FELLOW CITIZENS.

It's a law of nature.
It's the logical conclusion of their way of thinking.

In the beginning a progressive will lie, cheat, steal, destroy, smear, ruin, in order to force his vision of "utopia" down the throats of people who don't want it. Because he believes he knows better than they.

A progressive will continue to use the same tactics throughout his life. What others want or prefer means nothing to him. He has decided what's best for others and will move the world to make sure it is imposed upon them.

As his power increases, his tactics become more overt, aggressive and violent.

And of course, any threat to his power is a threat to the "good of the collective" and the Utopian dream. And it must be mercilessly snuffed out for the good of all.

In order to impose his will on everyone else, it is necessary to rule them all with a iron fist. And ultimately the only way to do that is to use extreme violence.

And there will always be some troublesome people who are just ruining it for everybody else. Who just won't go along. Who are dissenters and disrupters. Enemies of the peace. Enemies of the people. Enemies of the collective and their dreams of Utopia.

And for the dream to survive and come to fruition, such people must be eliminated.

It's the law of the nature of Progressives.

It's evident in their ready impulse to silence voices that disagree with them. An example is their enthusiasm for a Talk-Radio "Fairness Doctrine". The fact that there is one place in the culture that actually has the audacity to speak full-throated Conservatism/Libertarianism is utterly unacceptable to them.

That Academia, the entire Media, all of Entertainment, and the Music industry (with the exception of some country singers) are in lockstep with their Progressive propaganda is not good enough. No one must be allowed to dissent. There must be NO voices questioning their message. All other voices must be silenced. All enemies must be neutralized.

It's evident in their PC charges of "racism" "homophobia", designed for no other reason than to shut opposition down. To shut you up.

That's all Political Correctness is: Progressives' attempt to silence voices and ban ideas they don't like  and don't want anybody to hear.

And those behaviors, friends, are the first steps of the eventual Stalinian mass-murderer.

Yes. That's extreme. But it's also true.

Every progressive is an incipient mass murderer. Most just don't have the opportunity to mature into their full potential.

Progressives use whatever nasty bits of power and corruption they can accumulate. If it's a little, they smear you. If it's a lot, they kill you.

DO. NOT. DOUBT. ME.

The Gunslinger

Who They Really Are

Reposted from D.C.Clothesline.

Progressives are incipient mass murderers.
Do not doubt me.

Best Quote: "Their minds are not simply made up.  They’ve been given away. "

The Gunslinger

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Stop Arguing; Start Arming
Posted on January 13, 2013 by seanmcconeghy
(at D.C. Clothesline)


Shortly after the election, former Ron Paul staffer Eric Dondero wrote a piece in which he declared Obama supporters his sworn enemies, “enemies of liberty” as he called them.  He cut off all contact with friends, neighbors, and relatives who backed the President’s reelection campaign, calling them “enemies of freedom”, and took his boycott to all areas of his life.  Like most others in the conservative/libertarian coalition, I didn’t think much of it, and dismissed his reaction as childish.  It wasn’t so much that I disagreed with his assessment of them, but after all, personal relationships transcend politics.  I was half wrong.

What I failed sufficiently to consider was the infinite gulf between how individualists and collectivists view the world.  Although many, including me, have generally thought of this primarily in terms of politics, the issues about which the talking heads shout on the news networks every night are merely a reflection of the real difference, not the difference itself.   The real difference is much more fundamental.

Consider for a moment just how many conservative/libertarian friends have cut off contact with you for political reasons.  There may be people with whom you speak less because of politics, but it is unlikely that you’ll find a person who solely for political reasons uttered the words, “I’m never speaking to you again.”  Now ask yourself the same question about leftists.  Chances are that number is considerably higher.  Understanding why that is the case is critically important moving forward.

Here is the inherent difference that we have not fully considered: conservatives and libertarians believe in the inherent rights and value of the individual.  To be sure, the two groups disagree on a whole host of issues, but those disagreements are simply different branches of the same tree.  For example, many conservatives oppose legal gambling because they believe it to be in conflict with the inherent dignity of the individual while libertarians generally support it based on the notion that such dignity requires that each person be able to make that choice for himself.

By contrast, leftists have no such respect for individual rights or dignity.  In their view, the world must operate according to what makes them feel good, or what seems “fair” to them.  That is why they view the Constitution not as a living document but as a moot one.  In their ideology, written rules and individual rights are passé.  The “enlightened” individual must submit himself to the collective, and those unwilling to do so must be ignored, mocked, defeated, or, if necessary, destroyed.

That difference is why you will generally find that leftists will cut off relationships with you for political purposes, but conservatives and libertarians generally will not.   Regardless of political differences, the latter treat people as individuals with inherent dignity.  A person is not simply a liberal, Democrat, or even Communist.  It’s Bob, and he has a job, a family, hobbies, goals, quirks, etc.  Leftists, however, viewing people as members of the collective, treat those who do not reinforce their views as evil.  There is no inherent human dignity.  Their friend or relative is not Bob but some archaic barbarian rube who is nothing more than an obstacle to “progress”.

Why is this important?

Over the last six or so years since now-President Obama began his campaign, his cult of personality has overtaken the left in a way that no previous President has done with a group of this size in US history.  Unlike Dondero, I will say that this doesn’t apply to all of the President’s voters, but certainly a critical mass of them.  With demoralization having long been completed and destabilization well under way, tens of millions of minds that have been turned to mush by an education system that makes them incapable of critical thinking have ceded their thought process wholesale to their messiah. You don’t find the anti-war protesters marching over Libya or Yemen.  The gun grabbers ignore Fast and Furious.

Many in the middle class praise the President for raising their taxes even after exalting him when he vowed not to do so.  Those who decried the Bush Administration’s Wall Street connections didn’t even blink when Obama put the same people in power.  Crickets all around as the President walks on water.

To be sure, it is critically important that we not make the same mistake the leftists have made.  We must be extremely careful to continue to respect the rights and dignity of individuals even if they themselves fail to do the same.  Doing otherwise would make us no better than them: we would defeat ourselves.

That said, beware.  Do not expect the same of them: their world view does not allow it.  Do not waste your time arguing with them: such attempts will be no more fruitful than arguing with those who say that fossils are Satan’s tricks.  Their minds are not simply made up.  They’ve been given away.  Finally, while our world view demands that we continue to respect them as individuals with dignity and rights, it would be foolhardy to think that these people would not turn on you in a heartbeat if their deity demanded it.  Be prepared for that moment.