Wednesday, September 01, 2010

Humans and Freedom

During a long drive home last night from an event at which we heard Dick Armey and two of his gang at FreedomWorks speak (it was interesting...but mostly a book tour stop)...I mentioned to my friends that, "Liberty is the highest human value".

I said that other values like love, compassion, charity are NOT the highest, because without Liberty, they cannot be expressed properly.

You see, Love, Compassion, and Charity are not merely "feelings". They are behaviors. And without the freedom to act in the world as you wish, you cannot express these values. As "feelings" they are just expressions of an inner desire an inner landscape. Without actions, they don't exist in the objective world. They are merely subjective artifacts.

Does that makes sense?

I said that people—Human Beings—require Liberty to live fulfilled, truly Human lives.

I said Human Beings "NEED" Liberty.

And they argued.

They said human beings only "need" food, water, shelter. They said a "need" is the minimum necessary to keep you alive.

I said they're describing the "needs" of a clam, perhaps...but not of a Human Being, who is not just a biological unit, but has an intellectual and a spiritual dimension as well. And that all three need to be "nourished" in order to produce a true Human Being.

I said that in essence they were saying that even consciousness wasn't a "need".  After all, a person in a vegetative state can "live" for years if given food, water and shelter.

But I'd hardly call that "living".

Now there was one more point I tried to make that neither of my friends seem to understand.

Here's my second point:  All human beings want Liberty!

I contend that most people will choose freedom when they are faced with concrete limitations on their freedom in their immediate experience - even while they may intellectually argue abstractly that safety or security is superior to freedom...talk of things like "freedom from want", or "freedom from danger or risk".

My friends say otherwise. They think most people are sheep and will choose safety over freedom.

I say no [sane] human being will choose a prison cell even if it means plenty of food, water, shelter. Even if we add health care, alcohol, recreational drugs and sexual partners—almost every human being will choose freedom rather than that prison cell.

I would stipulate that some people will initially choose the cell...thinking they made a great deal, but that in the end, they will know they have chosen badly and repent...and seek freedom.

And I think the multi-generationally poor in the inner cities are a perfect example of that. I think they made the initial choice to accept the prison (plantation) cell, with the promise of free food, water, shelter...but are experiencing the rage and frustration of the un-free. I think they are rebelling against their choice, and seeking freedom. They just don't have the vision or the vocabulary to describe it correctly.

Their anger, even if expressed in racial terms is merely their Human Nature exerting itself, and their violence and anger are symptoms of the un-free wanting freedom;  of having accepted imprisonment for the sake of security. It is what many of the arrogant in the Liberty Community consider the quintessential "SHEEP" violently rebelling against their serfdom.

So, yeah, I think human beings "need" freedom, even if they don't know it. They cannot reach their potential, or lead fully human lives in the absence of freedom. And no matter who they are, or how they express their dissatisfaction, they always rebel against tyranny.

Lest anyone misunderstand, there are always exceptions...there will always be individuals who will opt for safety over freedom. But let's stipulate that these exceptions prove the rule rather than otherwise.

The Gunslinger
(Zombie Killer, Waxing Philosophical)

7 comments:

  1. Good post! I've got to quibble with it of course, but I liked it.

    "I mentioned to my friends that, "Liberty is the highest human value"."

    You're certainly pretty damn close to the bullseye if not quite dead center... close enough for non-government work.

    "I said that other values like love, compassion, charity are NOT the highest, because without Liberty, they cannot be expressed properly."

    I tend to agree with you there. There have been philosophers who've said that you need nothing more than the meagerest of necessities, gruel, water, air - in order to live a happy life, the stoics especially, like Epictetus & Marcus Aurelius, even Socrates to some extent, said that all else is under your control, it is up to you. And they dooo have a point, Epictetus was a slave, Marcus Aurelius was an emperor - neither had what you and I would call liberty, and still they found a way to be achieve a deep sense of happiness.

    But.

    That's kind of like saying "People can swim 400 meters in 3:47.79 min, they can, I saw Michael Phelps do it!"

    Yeah... but.

    "You see, Love, Compassion, and Charity are not merely "feelings". They are behaviors. And without the freedom to act in the world as you wish, you cannot express these values. "

    I agree with the gist, but putting on my picky hat, they aren't only behaviors - we've all seen some people who may behave like they love someone, behave like they have compassion for someone, behave in a charitable way, when we know for a fact they are the meanest, cruelest misers who are maybe just aping those behaviors for the Media.

    Someone isn't really acting and expressing true Love, Compassion, and Charity unless their actions reflect the true sensations they are feeling from within... and they can't be faked and still be real (I'd also say that you can't choose to feel love, compassion and charity, you can behave as if you do, but that also is just choosing to behave well); which puts it more towards what I'd describe as they are less behaviors or feelings, than the natural results of a persons ingrained habits & beliefs with a lack of contradiction between them - integrity. And while you can feel and express such things without a solid sense of liberty, it is far less likely that you will without it.

    The key reason, I think, is that all virtues (and Love, Compassion, and Charity are the result of virtues), require you to habitually make moral, reasoned, choices - there can be no morality where there is no choice - and it takes a superstar ethical athlete to make those kinds of choices in the absence of the physical liberty to do so.

    I think you'd like the guy who did more to shape the Founder's ideas of what was needed for a good life - the pursuit of happiness - than any other philosopher, Aristotle, particularly his Nichomachean Ethics. He too believed that you needed some amount of wealth, some amount of leisure, some amount of 'luck' or good fortune, health, friendship and the ability to take action as you saw was necessary (closest they came to our concept of liberty); in his view, all of that was necessary to be able to say that someone lived a successful, capital "H" Happy life.
    (I sure wish I was at liberty to comment with more than 4,096 characters)

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  2. (cont)

    And, giving a nod in your direction, our typical term for all of that, or at least for the potential of having that - is Liberty.

    "After all, a person in a vegetative state can "live" for years if given food, water and shelter.
    But I'd hardly call that "living"."

    Hard to believe that anyone could say it was with a straight face. Shiver.

    "All human beings want Liberty!"

    ehh... not so sure about that, not in the full and proper sense anyway, the sense of living a life that consistently puts in the effort and responsible behavior that true liberty requires. You can be completely free of physical oppression and not know liberty. Seriously, those living in the Founder's era would find that completely uncontroversial, which was why they put such an emphasis on true Education,

    Educate:
    Etymology: Middle English, to rear, from Latin educatus, past participle of educare to
    rear, educate, from educere to lead forth


    That was the meaning of Education in the Classical Liberal sense, it was what was required for making one worthy and able to live in Liberty. Unless you have an understanding of yourself, the world and your proper place in it, you would be in bondage to false ideas and impulses which would enslave you every bit as far from a state of liberty as would physical oppression. Or as the Greeks summed it up: Know Thyself, without that, you cannot be free.

    I can't imagine anything further from that than what is considered to be 'education' in our schools today. Today, we are 'educated' not to know yourself, to free yourself from within and so refuse to be compelled from without - today we are told you must be given , fatted, pampered, that other people control whether we are happy and 'free'... such a person, whether in the poverty of the inner city, or the pampering of Paris Hilton, you'll be without liberty just the same.

    "I contend that most people will choose freedom when they are faced with concrete limitations on their freedom in their immediate experience - even while they may intellectually argue abstractly that safety or security is superior to freedom...talk of things like "freedom from want", or "freedom from danger or risk"."

    Agreed... but putting my picky hat back on (yeah, as if I ever take it off!), being physically free is not the same as liberty. Choosing, and taking the actions necessary to be physically free, are not the same as choosing to live in liberty. And while I'll go so far as to agree that people, especially those under known restraints, yearn for freedom, and even liberty... relatively few will then knowingly choose to do what is necessary to live a life of liberty in the pursuit of Happiness "...life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness".

    And that last is the clue to why Liberty is not the highest human value... it is a means to something else. We don't want liberty to... have liberty - we want liberty so that we might achieve Happiness, and that is the highest Human value. Aristotle again.

    He was such a know-it-all.

    ehem.

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  3. You convinced me. NIcely done! Perfectly obvious—once you see it.

    Liberty as the means to Happiness...full Human Fulfillment. Okay. I'll buy that.

    I do understand your nitpicking the difference between physical liberty and psychological/spiritual liberty...but I was using the argument to explain a less esoteric,common, natural desire that exists in almost all people for freedom...which my friends were denying.

    Maybe they meant the esoteric sort of liberty you allude to...but they did not make that clear.

    Their point was more that because some people don't perceive the threat to freedom that my friends do...they are sheep, indifferent to freedom.

    It was my position that they are not, they just do not yet see their liberty as threatened (okay, they MIGHT be STUPID...); and that at such time as they do, they will struggle to keep it.

    Or at the very least WANT to fight to keep it...they will see its value and want freedom.

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  4. I agree with both of you...and I would never choose the cell. I will do whatever is necessary to stay out of it...fight to the end, so to say.

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  5. Gunslinger said "Liberty as the means to Happiness...full Human Fulfillment. Okay. I'll buy that."

    ;-)

    "Their point was more that because some people don't perceive the threat to freedom that my friends do...they are sheep, indifferent to freedom.
    It was my position that they are not, they just do not yet see their liberty as threatened (okay, they MIGHT be STUPID...); and that at such time as they do, they will struggle to keep it."

    There is sooo much in there between those two, and your,

    "Perfectly obvious—once you see it."

    is key to it, that the comment I was writing began to approach post length, one of my post's lengths, way too much for even split comments... I'll have to turn it into a post soon - maybe after I finish my Regulatory posts.

    But to hit the highlights, I think most people don't perceive the threat to their freedoms, but not because they're sheep or indifferent to freedom - or stupid - but because they don't recognize or know what freedom and liberty are, or at least not in any but the most basic, perceptual, levels... which aren't far from the level that see's the candy man giving you gobs of yummy candy as being your friend, and the dentist who brings ouchy needles as being an enemy.

    What is so disastrous about modern 'education', is that it cuts us off at the roots from understanding what needs to be understood, to even be able to grasp what we want. It is focused on whims and wants and skills, but discards all of the hard won conceptual knowledge (which is just as much poetic as academic & scientific) which makes Western Civilization... Western... and leaves us in the garish barbaric hellhole that all the rest of human history has always been.

    Whether your fashion choice is to wear shrunken heads on a belt, or iPods in a pocket, that is not what makes you civilized and suited to freedom, liberty and happiness - and lacking that, it really makes very little difference whether you wear shrunken heads on a belt, or iPods in a pocket - a barbarian you'll still be.

    It has nothing to do with being smart or dumb, in fact I think smart people are if anything, more susceptible to the con. Without some grasp of the important details, it is extremely easy, enticing even, to overlook them, convince yourself that you're seeing the bigger picture, and bite on the lure of power, state power, to give you the 'liberties' you crave.

    Like the thug who longs to break out of his cell to be 'free'... when he escapes, the same undefined, and to him indefinable, urges, cravings, wants, will still drive and torment him, inexorably, back onto the same path right back to that jail cell, or coffin, whichever happens to come first.

    Without having the conceptual grasp of the actual lay of the spiritual & intellectual landscape, you can easily think you can get from here to there, unaware of the chasms, raging rivers & mountains (and which are, after all, just squiggles on the map) awaiting you just around the bend.

    Arghhh... gotta leave it there. Thanks for the food!

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  6. I think you mean, "thanks for the fish"...

    (Hitchhikers' Guide and all that.)

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  7. Heh, I came sooo close to saying that, but I wasn't sure anyone would get it without the 'so long'... serves me right.

    But now that the vogon's out of the bag, I'll close with the increasingly inappropriate farewell which I won't be leaving with, 'so long and thanks for all the fish!'

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